Posts Tagged 'google'

Search Sites: Stupid!

DoodleDue to the utter primitiveness of some major internet search sites, I’ve been forced to change some content at StayOnTop.

Amy Winehouse In Pills    The problem was, two pages here (The Pills and Antidepressants With Sex Effects) each had extensive lists of a few hundred brand names of popular antidepressant medications. All those names were given so you could easily look up the specific category (MAOI, SSRI, TCA etc.) of your own antidepressant, and the major known side effects of that category.

    Modern internet search pretends to be ever more refined: they try to make personal profiles of the people who search, so they can adjust the search results to what they think are your personal needs and interests. This is fine (as long as you’re not concerned too much about privacy).

    But when it comes to profiling the actual content they’re listing in their search result pages, they still do a very poor job. Sure, Google has begun trying to filter out “content farms”: websites that have only copied content, and that exist solely for the purpose of showing ads. But on the whole, the search sites still don’t have a clue about what it actually is they are listing as the results for a search.

    It looks like instead of making some kind of actual content analysis, they still rely on simply counting word frequencies to determine what websites are about. This is a kind of Stone Age approach, dating from 1992 or thereabouts, and one that doesn’t really work anymore today.

Dumb Guess

    The result? Probably because of the high frequency of all kinds of medication brand names in the two above-mentioned pages, some search sites (their scanning software, that is) concluded that StayOnTop must be one of those many dubious web shops selling fake medication to a gullible public. They downgraded my site accordingly, so it became harder to find for people searching actual medication info.

    The search whizz kids completely missed the fact that this site is something very different, that those pages of mine were not selling anything at all, and that actually I was warning explicitly and urgently against the dangers of getting medication from dubious sources.

    So because “modern” web search is still this primitive, and because I like new visitors to find this site, I was forced to remove all those brand names. Those two medication pages still do exist here, but their value has been diminished because they will no longer list all the actual brand names. Effectively, the dumbness of web search algorithms forces bloggers like me to remove useful content!

    As a temporary measure, I have saved the original two webpages (the ones that included all those neatly sorted antidepressant brand names) in two PDF files that are less likely to set search software on a false track. So you can still use the full versions, only now you’ll need to download these PDF files:

 
The Pills (PDF file with all antidepressant brand names included)
 
Antidepressants With Sex Effects (PDF file with all brand names included)
 

Vonda ShepardI surely hope that in ten years from now, we’ll no longer see this kind of silly glitches. For now, I hold my breath: let’s hope that our wonderfully smart search sites will not jump to the conclusion that StayOnTop is some kind of porn site because this post included the word “sex” more than once

    Let’s top off all this with some fitting search-song. What about Vonda Shepard? To some, she’s best known for her appearance years ago in the Ally McBeal TV show, but she’s really a great singer. For her last album, do take a look at her website.

Click the Play button below to hear her sing Searching My Soul, with the lines:

I’ve been searching my soul tonight
I know there’s so much more to life
now I know I can shine a light
to find my way back home


(if the player does not work, install Flash)


Online Depression Tests: Useless

Doodle Mood Meter

Depression Test SearchingIf you search Google for “depression test”, you will get about 460,000 results: most of them brief online questionnaires that are supposed to help you determine if you are suffering from depression. If you omit the quote marks around “depression test”, Google will even spew out 192,000,000 results.

    Well, you saw my title, did you? No need to beat about the bush here. In nearly all cases, these online self-assessment depression tests are totally useless. Sometimes, they even do more bad than good. Let me explain.

    But before getting to those tests themselves, let’s ask ourselves why – apparently – they are so popular. Why would you want to take some online test to find out if you really depressed? Obviously, the fact itself that you want to test your mood for “depression”, already indicates that something feels wrong. Otherwise – if you felt just fine – why would you want to try one of those depression tests?

Depression Badge    So it looks like people are flocking to those test pages not to find out whether they feel somewhat depressed (they already know), but rather to find out if this depressed mood is Really Serious. They want to know if their problems deserve the Official Badge Of Serious Depression. They want such a test either to confirm “Yes indeed, we have to label you as an Official Case of Depression” or they want the test to tell them “Oh well, it’s not as bad as you thought, you don’t formally qualify”. Both outcomes are not only dubious, but will help you no further. Of course some test results may also scale you, say, 3 on a 1-to-5 depression scale. Would that help you in any way?

    Most of these thousands of online depression tests are more or less identical. The free tests are usually based on a standard pattern; most of them are an abridged version of the antiquated 1983 Wakefield Questionnaire. In many other cases, sites present a somewhat more modern depression question list that was put together with sponsoring by Pfizer (the pharmaceutic industry). All these lists pretend they can tell you if you are really depressed by your answering just a simple list of 15 to 20 questions; there are even many tests online that claim they can give you an outcome based on only 10 answers.

Test MaterialTo be fair, I must say there are also depression tests of somewhat higher quality online: those may have over a 100 questions, and more often use not a simple list but a tree-pattern setup, meaning that your answer to one question determines what questions you will get next. But usually these more complex online tests will give you only an incomplete teaser-result for free, and you will have to pay for the actual outcome.

    In this post, I focus not on such paid online depression tests but on all those simple free tests that offer you only a handful of questions.

So what do these simple tests ask you? Let’s take #1 from the top of our Google “depression test” search page: a strangely anonymous website called My Depression Test. This is a simple list of 18 items; for each one you can score 1-6 on a scale from “Not At All” to “Very Much”. Here is their complete question list:

     1. I do things slowly.
     2. My future seems hopeless.
     3. It is hard for me to concentrate on reading.
     4. The pleasure and joy has gone out of my life.
     5. I have difficulty making decisions.
     6. I have lost interest in aspects of life that used to be important to me.
     7. I feel sad, blue, and unhappy.
     8. I am agitated and keep moving around.
     9. I feel fatigued.
    10. It takes great effort for me to do simple things.
    11. I feel that I am a guilty person who deserves to be punished.
    12. I feel like a failure.
    13. I feel lifeless – more dead than alive.
    14. My sleep has been disturbed – too little, too much, or broken sleep.
    15. I spend time thinking about HOW I might kill myself.
    16. I feel trapped or caught.
    17. I feel depressed even when good things happen to me.
    18. Without trying to diet, I have lost, or gained, weight.

Note that 9 out of these 18 questions (the ones I marked with a red dot ) if you put them in other words, in fact each simply ask you the very same thing: “Do you feel depressed?”
    And 7 of the remaining 9 questions (the ones with a green dot ) do in fact also each ask the same thing: “Do you have trouble doing things in a satisfactory way?”

So actually, the entire list boils down to two main questions that you repeatedly have to give your score for:
     1. (7 times) Do I have trouble doing things in a satisfactory way?
     2. (9 times) Do I feel depressed?
To which it adds only two really different items:
     3. Do I feel guilty?
     4. Do I have inexplicable weight changes?

At the same time, several obvious and essential questions have been completely left out. For example, one of the key questions that has been omitted is: do I have intermittent depressed and happy periods, or do my feelings of depression stretch out continuously over a period longer than a few weeks?

Aggression TestSo far for the vapid shallowness of the whole thing: the entire list does little more than “measuring” and confirming what you already hoped, feared, felt, or knew. But there are many more problems here.

    One problem is of course the arbitrary character of this test. Because there is not enough variety between the questions and because most of them ask directly about how you feel, the result becomes highly dependent from how you happen to feel when filling it in. Doing this same test at 9 in the morning may give you a different score from doing it at 9 in the evening.

    The test is also arbitrary in another way: to score for each question, you are asked to choose between options such as “Just a little”, “Somewhat” or “Moderately”. What another person would call “Somewhat”, you might consider “Moderately”. This would be no problem if there were enough questions to compensate for incidental differences. But in combination with the very small number of questions in a test like this, this means that two equally depressed people might very well end up with a different end score.

    But there is a much more important problem with tests like this one. It is that they are far too easily manipulable. It is quite clear beforehand how your answer to for each question will contribute to your total “depression score”. In the test I listed above, “Not At All” is always good and “Very Much” is always bad. As a result, it is too easy to answer everything (intentionally or on a less conscious level) in a way that ensures you get the result you want or expect.

    In the much more extensive test forms used by professional psychologists and psychiatrists, there are usually mechanisms built in to prevent this undesirable effect and to guarantee a more objective outcome. Like, the same thing will be asked across the list in four completely different ways to check your consistency; scaling questions will be alternated with yes-or-no questions and open-end questions. And there will be reverse-questions: meaning that a “Very Much” answer might be bad for one question but good for another question. With such a professional test, it is more difficult to predict all the time what you are supposed to answer, and therefore the total of your many scores will be more honest and objective.

Pieces Of The Puzzle    Such professional tests also take into account that there are different kinds with depression with very different symptoms. Guiding you along that variety of symptoms, for example using a tree-pattern setup like I mentioned before, they will in the end not just determine how depressive you are. Rather, they will – as a preliminary diagnosis – indicate what kind of depression you may be coping with.

    The primitive online test example above does no such thing. Apart from sleep and weight loss-or-gain (and it does not differentiate between loss or gain) it almost seems to presume there is only one, vague, general kind of depression with similar symptoms for everyone. And with this primitive kind of test, an incidental one-day somber mood can easily be labeled wrongly as “depression”.

    It takes a professional psychiatrist not just a much more extensive and intelligently constructed test form, but also a few hours of thorough and probing talks with you before she can arrive at a real diagnosis. This investigation is what she needs both to determine the seriousness of your depression, and to establish what specific kind of depression you are coping with.

    Are you really naive enough to believe that a shallow, deficient, suggestive, primitive online mini-test like the one I dissected above can contribute anything that comes even near to a real diagnosis? Do you really think there is any reason to take the verdict of such a test seriously?

    As I said at the top of this post, at best such an online test provides you only with some kind of label, a kind of badge that is based on superficial and doubtful grounds. If a Depression Badge is what you need, so be it.

    But for some people these tests can be dangerous too, in more than one way. They may provide you with a false assurance or a false certainty. They may, by giving someone the badge “you are indeed extremely depressed”, thrash that person’s last hopes and only worsen the depression: self-labeling is not always wise. Or they may give a very depressed person the badge “you are indeed somewhat depressed but it’s only moderate”, thereby tempting him to wait a little longer before seeking actual help.

Summary:

CrosswordsThese short online depression tests are incomplete, superficial and methodically totally inadequate. They will not tell you anything you didn’t in fact already feel or know. They will not help you any further. They may label you in a way that is not always correct or wise. And they may leave you with a false and unfounded feeling of certainty.

In fact, trying to do an online crossword puzzle might be much healthier and much more useful to you, than doing one of these online depression tests.


 tip: Just trust your own feelings. The depth and persistence of your own depressive feelings should tell you if you need to seek help, not some superficial online test.
    And let me add one specific warning: beware of “depression tests” on websites that at the same time want to sell you some product (a therapy, medication, self-help book, whatever). Those websites might have an interest in their “test” telling you that you are depressed.


 

A Look Through the Hole

This is the first post in the category “Found on the Web”. What more obvious way to begin than with Google? I pinched a hole in this page that leads directly to the Google search results for the words depression psychiatry:
Google Search Results for DepressionI did add the word psychiatry to exclude irrelevant results such as “rain depression” or “the 1930s Great Depression”. As you see, this search leaves us with over 11 million found webpages. A similar search for the words depression psychiatric help produces a similar result – nearly 10 million pages. It would take me a few hundred years to view them all. Of course you can narrow down your search by adding more specific terms like medication or therapy, research, suicide, family, and so on.

    But just like the Web in general, a huge number of all those pages may be discarded anyway as useless, superficial, irrelevant, biased, or even plain nonsense (in my next posts I will show some examples of online nonsense).

MCT: Mango Chutney TherapyWorse, some webpages may be outright dangerous. Anyone can invent some weird new depression therapy and put it online. Suppose I were to invent some hypothetical Mango Chutney Therapy (MCT), you might soon find some webpages saying MCT is a fraud, but also some webpages saying MCT is a great new idea. The Web is full of such contradictory, confusing, and sometimes false information. Finding reliable info online is like finding a needle in a haystack. Sometimes it is even hard to tell whether what you found is the real needle, or just some hay.

    Luckily, Google orders its search results more or less according to what it thinks is relevant. In my 11-million-results query for depression psychiatry, the top result was a general overview of what depression is, from Medscape (which turns out to be run by the WebMD company that covers a wide array of medical information online). This fairly comprehensive page about depression did look reliable. Just don’t forget that sites like that may partly depend on commercial sponsors (sometimes the pharmaceutical industry) and therefore might not always be completely unbiased.

The Protection Of Snake OilThe number two result in my search was a webpage with anti-depression tips by the Royal College of Psychiatrists, a British non-profit organization of professionals. Again this one did look reliable, and even helpful.
    Just be aware that helpful-looking webpages like that might also come from less professional organizations, for example from obscure religious sects. So in other ways they might be even more biased than sponsored commercial sites.

    One general thing to keep in mind is that no one of all those web authors (me included) does know you personally. So if you are looking for some specific advice regarding your own personal problems, in many cases a professional who already knows about your situation might be in a much better position to help and advise, than any webpage written by people who know nothing about you.


 tip: Never just take for granted what you read on the Web. Try to find out where exactly a website’s information comes from: so always first take a brief look at a site’s “about us” or “contact” pages. You won’t know for sure if what they say about themselves is true, but if they say little or nothing about who they are, you will at least know this is not a good sign.
    Also look at indications such as links to other sites, footnotes, references, publication lists that might give you some clue of a site’s background.
    When looking for specific information, always compare a few different websites for what they tell about it.


 


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Today In History:

Ethel du PontMay 25, 1965 –
Ethel du Pont (49, former wife of President Roosevelt's son Franklin Delano Roosevelt Jr.) hangs herself in her bathroom with the belt of her dressing gown. She had mentioned suicide several times before and was “under psychiatric care” for her depressions.
   In the 1930s, as a wealthy heiress from the Du Pont family, she had been a well-known socialite. In 1937 her marriage with the President's son had been a major event, with the couple being featured on the cover of Time Magazine. After their divorce in 1949 she had married lawyer Benjamin Warren.
   Following Ethel's suicide, the rich Du Pont family established the Harvard Medical School Ethel du Pont-Warren Fellowship Award to specifically support psychiatric research.

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